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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What purpose does being able to fight serve? I&#039;d prefer to look good and have brains and maturity to not need to be able to whoop people in a dark alley! One purpose of looking good - not as big as a bodybuilder - is girls love it, far more than a guy who is insecure and needs to think he is tough. Today brains is far more powerful than how much we can lift!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What purpose does being able to fight serve? I&#8217;d prefer to look good and have brains and maturity to not need to be able to whoop people in a dark alley! One purpose of looking good &#8211; not as big as a bodybuilder &#8211; is girls love it, far more than a guy who is insecure and needs to think he is tough. Today brains is far more powerful than how much we can lift!</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
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		<dc:creator>don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got asked a couple of weeks ago by the manager at my gym how come i never use the nice shiny expensive machines they offer..i told him it&#039;s cause im not a pussy and im not elderly...he doesnt talk to me anymore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got asked a couple of weeks ago by the manager at my gym how come i never use the nice shiny expensive machines they offer..i told him it&#8217;s cause im not a pussy and im not elderly&#8230;he doesnt talk to me anymore</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey zach I just call a lot of the bodybuilder that just do for the look of big muscle showcases for the fact that they can only be looked at  and not able to use the so called power that they  think  they have  lol it like the old snl skit of the two guys with pillows for muscle  saying. We gonna pump you  up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey zach I just call a lot of the bodybuilder that just do for the look of big muscle showcases for the fact that they can only be looked at  and not able to use the so called power that they  think  they have  lol it like the old snl skit of the two guys with pillows for muscle  saying. We gonna pump you  up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mateusz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mateusz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree in 100 %. Remember when once bodybuilder (lean, ripped, and pretty) came to our Krav Maga training. Coach told him to fight with me and he had that stupid smile (I weighted like 160 and he like 200). Guess what happened when he get first few shots. I could saw amazement and fear in his eyes. NO MENTAL TOUGHNESS NOR REAL WORLD STRENGTH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree in 100 %. Remember when once bodybuilder (lean, ripped, and pretty) came to our Krav Maga training. Coach told him to fight with me and he had that stupid smile (I weighted like 160 and he like 200). Guess what happened when he get first few shots. I could saw amazement and fear in his eyes. NO MENTAL TOUGHNESS NOR REAL WORLD STRENGTH!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 02:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried to tell people that for years. What good does it do to lift a lot of weight if you cannot apply it anywhere. I love your training videos. I coach wrestling and am getting my team involved in sandbags, kettlebells, and body weight training. I am trying to get the money to buy tires, more ropes, chains, sleds, etc. I have looked my whole life for people that think like this. Thanks for all of your stuff. One of these days we will meet in person and tear it up together. Keep it coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried to tell people that for years. What good does it do to lift a lot of weight if you cannot apply it anywhere. I love your training videos. I coach wrestling and am getting my team involved in sandbags, kettlebells, and body weight training. I am trying to get the money to buy tires, more ropes, chains, sleds, etc. I have looked my whole life for people that think like this. Thanks for all of your stuff. One of these days we will meet in person and tear it up together. Keep it coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I don&#039;t understand Zach, is why they don&#039;t want to train with all the methods, if you don&#039;t want to be confined to the little box then one should abandoned the safe confines and explore other things that can surely get you stronger which will enable you to lift heavier and build bigger, stronger, permanent muscles.   I&#039;m a competitive bodybuilder in the natural arena and when I see these implements I get very excited like a kid in a candy store, but, I&#039;m 53 so I&#039;m far from the kid but I do act like one when there is a tire, sled or any implement around so I can mix up my training with.       --   OLD SCHOOL, REAL SCHOOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I don&#8217;t understand Zach, is why they don&#8217;t want to train with all the methods, if you don&#8217;t want to be confined to the little box then one should abandoned the safe confines and explore other things that can surely get you stronger which will enable you to lift heavier and build bigger, stronger, permanent muscles.   I&#8217;m a competitive bodybuilder in the natural arena and when I see these implements I get very excited like a kid in a candy store, but, I&#8217;m 53 so I&#8217;m far from the kid but I do act like one when there is a tire, sled or any implement around so I can mix up my training with.       &#8212;   OLD SCHOOL, REAL SCHOOL.</p>
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		<title>By: P. Fitzpatrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>P. Fitzpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you get sick and bedridden and you are bodybuilder, you watch your pumped-up muscles shrink fast. If your have trained for strength, endurance, and conditioning, you bounce back harder and faster. I am sure there is a scientific explanation (red fibers, white fiber, etc.) but there is a simple difference between show and substance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you get sick and bedridden and you are bodybuilder, you watch your pumped-up muscles shrink fast. If your have trained for strength, endurance, and conditioning, you bounce back harder and faster. I am sure there is a scientific explanation (red fibers, white fiber, etc.) but there is a simple difference between show and substance.</p>
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		<title>By: anthony c</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthony c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zach-

i&#039;ve been following the blog for a while but really just lurk. seeing this sentiment for the second time- i&#039;ve coming out of the dark and posting.

this is SO right on the pulse of what i think about when i train. 

i work out at the park in front of my house with the usual underground gear- bells, tires, sandbags, pull ups, olmypic bar etc.. my neighbors or people at the park always ask me what i&#039;m training for- i tell them for life. 

we used to be hunter-gatherers. now we work behind computers and have reality TV and credit cards. if all that sh*t went away, where would you be? that&#039;s a question i ask myself. then i lift heavy things with reckless abandon and push myself. when i want to quit- i remind myself that if i can&#039;t lift what&#039;s in front of me or do one more sprint of one more round of pull ups- how can i expect to protect myself or my loved ones or evade a horde of zombies (only 60% joking on the last part). 

i&#039;m with you on this 100%- my own anecdote and then i&#039;m done rambling. i&#039;m 30 years old, 5&#039;10&quot; and about 150lbs. i was in vegas for a work conference and i went to the hotel gym. i was doing dead lifts and  pull ups. a no neck affilction-short wearing, hair-gelled-at-the-gym d*bag was cranking out lat pulls on the machine. when i get serious, i turn up my head phones, take off my shoes and go. i don&#039;t care who&#039;s around me, if i&#039;m feeling it, i&#039;ll make a little noise. after a set of pull ups i caught him snickering. i said screw it. went back to work. when i was done and walking out, he asked hey dude, whadaya bench? i told him i did&#039;nt know and didn&#039;t care. watched him do another set of lat pulls with the whole rack on the machine and then asked him, hey dude, how many pull ups can you do? he said let&#039;s see. walked over to the pull up bar and couldnt do one. not a single one. he tried and tried. FAIL. he was PISSED. i laughed and left. 
yeah- he look great pulling that whole stack of weights with his gelled hair. but when the zombies swarm, i&#039;m climbing my ass up on a roof and running and he&#039;s lunch. 

thanks for all you do zach. knowing you and others are out there makes me hate less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zach-</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve been following the blog for a while but really just lurk. seeing this sentiment for the second time- i&#8217;ve coming out of the dark and posting.</p>
<p>this is SO right on the pulse of what i think about when i train. </p>
<p>i work out at the park in front of my house with the usual underground gear- bells, tires, sandbags, pull ups, olmypic bar etc.. my neighbors or people at the park always ask me what i&#8217;m training for- i tell them for life. </p>
<p>we used to be hunter-gatherers. now we work behind computers and have reality TV and credit cards. if all that sh*t went away, where would you be? that&#8217;s a question i ask myself. then i lift heavy things with reckless abandon and push myself. when i want to quit- i remind myself that if i can&#8217;t lift what&#8217;s in front of me or do one more sprint of one more round of pull ups- how can i expect to protect myself or my loved ones or evade a horde of zombies (only 60% joking on the last part). </p>
<p>i&#8217;m with you on this 100%- my own anecdote and then i&#8217;m done rambling. i&#8217;m 30 years old, 5&#8217;10&#8243; and about 150lbs. i was in vegas for a work conference and i went to the hotel gym. i was doing dead lifts and  pull ups. a no neck affilction-short wearing, hair-gelled-at-the-gym d*bag was cranking out lat pulls on the machine. when i get serious, i turn up my head phones, take off my shoes and go. i don&#8217;t care who&#8217;s around me, if i&#8217;m feeling it, i&#8217;ll make a little noise. after a set of pull ups i caught him snickering. i said screw it. went back to work. when i was done and walking out, he asked hey dude, whadaya bench? i told him i did&#8217;nt know and didn&#8217;t care. watched him do another set of lat pulls with the whole rack on the machine and then asked him, hey dude, how many pull ups can you do? he said let&#8217;s see. walked over to the pull up bar and couldnt do one. not a single one. he tried and tried. FAIL. he was PISSED. i laughed and left.<br />
yeah- he look great pulling that whole stack of weights with his gelled hair. but when the zombies swarm, i&#8217;m climbing my ass up on a roof and running and he&#8217;s lunch. </p>
<p>thanks for all you do zach. knowing you and others are out there makes me hate less.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond-ZenMyFitness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond-ZenMyFitness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it, very entertaining video especially with &#039;Dude&#039; working out.
I don&#039;t do the strength training but I guess truth is in flipping those tyres but I hope that mixing the gym and real world strength training I could adopt in the gym somehow.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love it, very entertaining video especially with &#8216;Dude&#8217; working out.<br />
I don&#8217;t do the strength training but I guess truth is in flipping those tyres but I hope that mixing the gym and real world strength training I could adopt in the gym somehow.<br />
Raymond</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree totally! I had a guy at my chiro that was lifting and walking all flared arms. Barely able to walk through the door at a whole buck 85! He looked at me and asked what I benched. Now I respect the big benchers, but I do look at it as a measure of manhood. I told him I don&#039;t bench. I do dumbbells and push ups. He laughed! So I explained that boys bench and men deadlift! Taking a look at his little legs, lack of upper back thickness, and lack of hand gloves he had no clue what I was talking about. I told him that real strength comes from moving your body weight. At 285# I can still do 20 full range pullups (granted I then drop to 15x2sets and 12 to fail) and a 100 pushups without stop/sagging hips/and touching the chest to the floor/full lockout. 
Some knuckleheads just don&#039;t get it!
I like the handing of the super gripper to the beast in training. I have a place that I get my training tires from. One day I was getting new wheels for my wife&#039;s van when I told the guy to put two in the back of the van. Being a new guy he had no idea that I was a regular there. He asked why, and the manager leaned out of his office and said,&quot;I bet it is for your boys.&quot; You better believe it! I don&#039;t make them workout, but they do what I do. So if I am flipping tires they do. Everything I do they do on their own. They eat what I eat, and love to train. It could be worse. I could be a smoking, drunk that treats his wife like crap. Instead I&#039;m a stay home dad that doesn&#039;t drink alcohol, doesn&#039;t smoke, doesn&#039;t eat processed foods/junk foods, and trains.
Keep up the good work! And I have already told the wife when I save up enough pennies I am coming to your gym for a cert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree totally! I had a guy at my chiro that was lifting and walking all flared arms. Barely able to walk through the door at a whole buck 85! He looked at me and asked what I benched. Now I respect the big benchers, but I do look at it as a measure of manhood. I told him I don&#8217;t bench. I do dumbbells and push ups. He laughed! So I explained that boys bench and men deadlift! Taking a look at his little legs, lack of upper back thickness, and lack of hand gloves he had no clue what I was talking about. I told him that real strength comes from moving your body weight. At 285# I can still do 20 full range pullups (granted I then drop to 15x2sets and 12 to fail) and a 100 pushups without stop/sagging hips/and touching the chest to the floor/full lockout.<br />
Some knuckleheads just don&#8217;t get it!<br />
I like the handing of the super gripper to the beast in training. I have a place that I get my training tires from. One day I was getting new wheels for my wife&#8217;s van when I told the guy to put two in the back of the van. Being a new guy he had no idea that I was a regular there. He asked why, and the manager leaned out of his office and said,&#8221;I bet it is for your boys.&#8221; You better believe it! I don&#8217;t make them workout, but they do what I do. So if I am flipping tires they do. Everything I do they do on their own. They eat what I eat, and love to train. It could be worse. I could be a smoking, drunk that treats his wife like crap. Instead I&#8217;m a stay home dad that doesn&#8217;t drink alcohol, doesn&#8217;t smoke, doesn&#8217;t eat processed foods/junk foods, and trains.<br />
Keep up the good work! And I have already told the wife when I save up enough pennies I am coming to your gym for a cert.</p>
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