Above, the Back of BIG Kevin Tolbert
Zach,
It's a bit confusing to me as I've been reading a lot of books about building up muscle & strength.
Many of them said reps should be around 8-12 and anything more is a waste of time. I hear you're saying that we should go for high reps to obtain muscle.
Please tell me the difference between doing high & low reps? What impact does it have?
You see I've only started training recently & want to build up my muscle.
I've been subscribing to many magazines & I still don't see much improvement.
Regards,
Jerry
Jerry,
Great question my friend. There is so much information out there nowadays, that confusion for the beginner is bound to happen. Regarding the magazines nowadays, most of them are completely fabricated stories of how the top guys train and have little or nothing to do with what happens in the REAL world. In addition, we are not talking about natural lifters when we talk about most of these magazines.
Sorry, no sugar coating here.
The greatest magazines were out in the early 70's and before. I have a stacks of 100+ Health & Strength Magazines from the 50s, 60s and 70s and they are GOLDEN - filled to the brim with awesome muscle building info.
The basics are constantly hammered home in these older magazines.
Basic lifting, Basic eating, Basic LIVING. Nothing fancy. I love it, I wish I had those magazines myself when I was a teen.
Gaining muscle comes down to eating, training, recovery and mind set. Certainly, your genetics also play a role but I've seen many non gifted lifters get strong and jacked through dedication on ALL fronts.
Regardless, ALL Success in Strength Training require consistency for years on end. There is no 30 days to this or 6 weeks to that. It's a LONG road and if you want some BS answer I can't help you.
If ANY of the above is not followed with commitment, then we have removed 50% of your muscle building formula already, and the results will be slow and average at best.
With regards to high reps and low reps, especially in regards to the question about Dr. Ken Leistner's son, Kevin Tolbert, look at the BIG weights he used for his lifts:
- Bench Press: Over 400 lbs on the bench press for over 10 reps
- Squats: 500 - 600 lbs for 20 - 30 reps
Look at those numbers again.
Those are HUGE weights AND for high reps. To get big you need to get strong first. When you get strong you can eventually move BIG weights and HIGH reps. This is a brutal style of training as it requires guts to keep digging through the pain barrier.
You can't go wrong with 5 x 5 barbell work, then perform calisthenics or dumbbells for reps in the 10+ range.
I utilize both high rep and low rep methods often during the same training session. We implement heavy weights on the basic barbell lifts and then do our rep work with calisthenics, dumbbells, kettlebells, etc.
Here's some More Basic Advice to build muscle which doesn't just come from training but your lifestyle as a whole:
Stick to the basics in food, get plenty of rest (8-9 hours of sleep each night, nap 1 hour when time allows), basics in training and be consistent. One step after another, slowly, slowly, the gains will come. But it's through the endless months and years that we see the progress, not after only a few weeks.
Last but not least, do not copy other people's programs without assessing if this program truly fits your needs. I used to copy the programs written in the bodybuilding magazines when I was young and that was a HUGE mistake. As I mentioned before, these were all fabricated workouts and articles and had nothing to do with a beginner who was drug free.
The bodybuilding magazines of today are packed with advertisements for magic supplements and magic this or that. It's ALL BS, which in the end, will NEVER replace the hard work, dedication, sweat and effort that goes into putting on solid muscle.
Getting strong in the basic lifts comes first. The basics, over and over will do the job. Don't let anyone tell you differently. The movements such as squats, bench press, military press and the like are Kings in the weight room. But, learning to organize and plan a workout program is also critical.
I'm not into the hype, I'm into what works.
Here's a sample week of training from Gladiator STRONG.
If the volume is too high for you, remove an exercise and / or remove 1 set from every exercise. Training 3 or 4 x week is best for gaining size and strength so you have plenty of time to recover.
Live The Code 365
4 Responses
This is an awesome article to the roots! What I fail to understand is the limits of high reps w heavy weight. In this instance is it the 531 type approach with a heavy max out set to those extreme reps, or are we talking accumulate volume?
I LOVE Jim’s 5 3 1 approach.
I have tested both, heavy weights on basic lifts for reps as well as rep work w/ assistance exercises with bodyweight and dumbbells.
Doing reps with heavy squats is excellent for size BUT very difficult to sustain long term.
Here and again, some rep work on Deadlifts is good too.
The bottom line is the Basics WIN.
You MUST go heavy if you want to get Stronger and Bigger and adding volume for hypertrophy via reps is needed.
My Wrestlers in season don’t do a lot of rep work as we’re maintaining weight classes BUT STILL focused on improving strength & power.
Off Season, we work reps.
Some off season guys this week did this with me:
After warm ups, these are working sets:
1) Squats 4 x 6 Heavy
2A) Floor Press 4 x 3 – 6 Reps. Then 2 lighter sets 8 – 12 reps
2B) Chest Supported KB Rowing x 8 – 12 each set
Shoulder / Triceps Circuit Finisher: https://www.instagram.com/p/BPgDI_6l_XR/?taken-by=undergroundstrengthgym
In Jim;s 5 3 1 he also has a big and boring where I think you do the heavy lift, then go lighter and do 5 x 10 with same lift, I LOVE that one!
Thanks for the response! I have been following 531 for about 20 months hitting different variations. I typically have to readjust when the weights ramp up and i was wondering about total volume at the top weight possibly versus one all out set; for the sake of more reps as well as bar speed. I do follow the main move up with higher rep work and love that approach. Just wish i had more time and days to train and a better life situation to sleep.
Thanks for everything u put out there. I Always enjoy the reads and when i catch u on podcasts.
Jim’s program is tops, you can’t go wrong with 531!!